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18 Responses to “Spiritual Practice: Suffering Is Optional”

  1. ReddyK - The Atma Jyoti Blog Says:

    Andrea,

    Your point of view may make some people uncomfortable, who think they must suffer (and be seen suffering! –verily, they have their reward.) Your point that we may “suffer” the squeals and complaints of the ego, but the inner urge to discover the Truth will over-ride them, and an interior assurance will comfort us, is true. I think there may be periods of darkness when we pass through clouds of negativity or confusion in which we may truly suffer, and we must be willing to endure them. But there are those who are perhaps a bit masochistic who must have suffering to feel they are accomplishing something. We need not join them.

    Glad to read your enjoyable posting, as always.

  2. Suzanne Bird-Harris | Learning Curve Coaching Says:

    Andrea,

    Great article! I say the same about life, in general - pain is inevitable (we’re human, it happens!) but suffering is optional (we’re more in charge of how much we suffer than most people realize.)

    I agree with ReddyK, too. Some people are so identified with their drama they can’t imagine who they’d be without it.

    Suzanne

  3. Mags | Woo-Woo Wisdom Says:

    What a fantastic article, Andrea, thank you.

    I had a little chuckle to myself when you mentioned the saying “what does not kill us, makes us stronger”… up until my early 20s, that was my mantra :). In my family of origin, stress became a competition (”You think you’re stressed?! You don’t know what stress is!”). It was a competition that I couldn’t win even though I certainly tried hard enough in those days (my mom’s stomach ulcer beat my spastic colon hands down every time!), and eventually I started to question just exactly what it was that I was trying to “win”. I decided to take myself out of the competition altogether, and explore other ways of living that brought me joy instead. It has been a journey that, as you so rightly point out, has involved discipline and determination, but which has also seen my self-imposed suffering diminish.

    In terms of specific spiritual practices, I’ve also had to learn what works for me and what won’t work even if I stubbornly keep at it because I “should”. Yoga for me was one of those that I was attracted to, which involved discomfort and required discipline (I wasn’t very physically flexible to start off with, and still can’t get into even a half lotus position!) but which brought a calmness and serenity to my life which has been invaluable.

  4. Andrea Hess Says:

    Hi ReddyK - Thank you so much for your perspective! I was really interested in your take on this … it’s such a fine line between creating discipline and creating unnecessary difficulty!

    Suzanne - “Pain is inevitable, but suffering is optional” - I love it!!! You’re totally right - it’s how we react to the pain that determines whether we suffer - or not! Let’s not! :-)

    Mags - A physical ailment competition in the family, huh? I know that probably wasn’t funny when you were going through it, but the way you write about it now is hysterical! Glad you stuck with yoga, even though it didn’t come easily. I feel that way about several meditation practices … there was a lot of initial discomfort, but through discipline, the benefits were revealed in due time. Then again, sometimes all we get is more discomfort … hee hee.

    Blessings,
    Andrea

  5. Dreamsenshi Says:

    In a world that seems, to me, full of people who want you to believe that there is only one right way to exist, to reach spiritual clarity, it is refreshing to hear someone validate my feeling that you have to trust yourself rather than force yourself to try and bend in a way that doesn’t feel right. It sounds like everything else in life; what diet is correct for one person/creature doesn’t work for another, and some hobbies work out better for some people than others too. When we have to find what works for us in every other aspect of our lives, it sure makes sense for the spiritual to follow. =^–^= Thanks, Andrea.

  6. Anmol Mehta | Mastery of Meditation Says:

    I agree with Dreamsenshi above. There is no one right path. Suffering might be necessary for spiritual evolution for some, but not necessary for all. Great article.

    Cheers,
    Anmol

  7. Barbara Says:

    Andrea,

    I do think there are many ways in which people experience the conscious entrance into and continued participation in a spiritual practice. Certainly reading material written here can be included. Choosing to keep reading, keep opening and keeping open to ideas can be of great assistance.

    It was my impression this evening as I scanned your article for the second time, you do offer a particular slice of what doing spiritual work can look like. I also think one of the overall ‘goals’ is balance, the balance that reveals the peace we all seek. I take the pieces you present, add it to what I already have integrated and continue to move along until I reach what is peaceful for me.

    I guess what I’m trying to say is I neither agree nor disagree with your premise, for that is not the issue. There will be others who present a completely opposite view to yours. Seeing your focus and theirs is part of weighing what feels right for me. I put it all into my mix.

    I also think, whenever I am moved to comment it is because you have provided something I needed, that we have somehow shared in a valuable exchange.

  8. Andrea Hess Says:

    Hi Barbara - You’re right! Whether you agree or not is definitely not the issue. What’s really important is to find your own perspective - your own personal Truth. I agree it’s great to read and study lots of different perspectives, to find what resonates with you and what doesn’t. It’s one way to unlock your inner wisdom, which is the source of guidance we really need!

    One of the important things to remember is that we have absolute choice over our perspective, which shapes our experience. We have to find the one that serves us best. And for some, the idea of suffering may work really, really well! It’s not “wrong” or “right” - but we must consider that we have a choice, and constantly evaluate whether our choice of perspective is working for us or against us.

    The exchange of perspectives is always valuable - it keeps us open to that evaluation process! Thank you, I really value your comments!

    Blessings,
    Andrea

  9. Tom Stine | Living from Consciousness Says:

    Andrea…. Nice post. I followed you over from UrbanMonk. I have to agree with many of the commenters. We will suffer if that is our path. Yes, it is optional, but sometimes we have to really hit bottom to get the message. That said, a friend recently said to me that I don’t have to choose the hard way if I don’t want to. I could have a little more fun along the journey. Point well made. But still, is the journey up to “me”, the ego that wants everything to go its way? No, I don’t think so.

    I’m going to read some of your other posts. Namaste.

  10. Svetlana Says:

    Suffering is a prerequisite for a real transformation.

  11. Desika Nadadur | I Am My Own Master Says:

    Andrea,

    Nice article!

    Certain spiritual techniques serve a definite purpose for the individual. Once the purpose of that technique has been fulfilled, it falls away. That is, you will not feel the need for that anymore. However, at this point the ego can act the opposite way. It will say things like, “You can’t stop doing the technique. If you do, it will be blasphemy against god or guru or so and so.” How will you know that the technique served its purpose? You have to question, “Does the technique come naturally as it used to? Does performing the technique now make me feel that I reached a plateau or that I should be doing more powerful? Or, does it creates a sense of dissatisfaction in me?” You have rethink. If the technique is trying to fall away by itself, then let it go, so that something new can come in and can help you further your spiritual development. If you don’t let go, then that will lead to suffering. This suffering could be a good lesson in “letting go” as well.

    Additionally, there may come a time when you have to let go of your “physical” gurus (i.e. letting go of clinging to them) because you have reached a level of awareness that they cannot guide you anymore. A true teacher will know and tell you that. If you don’t let go, again you will suffer, because you are denying the freedom that is arising within you.

    Ego is a double edged sword! :-)

    Thanks,
    Desika

  12. Andrea Hess Says:

    Svetlana - Whatever we believe is true!

    Desika - You are absolutely right - the ego can as much resist a spiritual technique as get attached to one. It takes much awareness to remain detached, even from aspirations of spiritual “advancement.” Thanks for bringing your perspective into this discussion!

    Blessings,
    Andrea

  13. Svetlana Says:

    Hi Andrea,

    Thank you for responding! :-) Yes, it is correct, whatever we believe is true (to us)!

    The truth is, it is much more complicated then we think. If we sincerely believe that what we believe is true (as everyone does, of course), then we will not be inclined to look any deeper into the issue.

    It suggests that we may have reasons for adopting beliefs that have nothing to do with the truth of those beliefs. What are those reasons? I’ll leave it up to you.

    I didn’t mean “suffering” as in turning your life into suffering. I understand reaction of some people to my comment. We all want to be happy, right?

    Happiness is not a feeling; it is a state of mind.

  14. Svetlana Says:

    One more comment :-)

    Suffering or Pain (it is the same) is a result of resistance; resistance is what holds up this physical world.

    Everyone got a piece of truth; the ultimate truth is not spoken. The ultimate Truth can be realized only through meditation, and not theorizing. Everyone is an expression of the universal source, which means there is no wrong path.

    Enjoyed your article and readers’ comments :-) Great Job!

    There was a need to speak up, so I did. :-)

    Love
    Svetlana

  15. Andrea Hess Says:

    Hi Svetlana - I’m thrilled you’re commenting here. I’m all for speaking up!!!

    I would go so far as to say that there are absolutely no “true” or “false” beliefs. There are only beliefs that serve us. For example, if you believe that all real transformation must include suffering, then this perspective will shape the experiences you attract, and the belief will be “true.” Beliefs are self-affirming by their very nature. Like you say, there are no “wrong” paths anyway. We’re all just expressing our little piece of Truth, which is just as true as everyone else’s piece of Truth. And if we’re lucky, we get to share our little piece with others! :-)

    I think rather than asking “Is this belief true?” it is far more helpful to ask “Is this belief serving me right now?”

    I agree that in the end, we are seeking an experience, not a theory. If we can “only” get there through meditation or not … I don’t know! I certainly meditate, but I must assume that there are lots of paths.

    Keep the comments coming! :-)
    Blessings,
    Andrea

  16. Cali Says:

    What is the purpose of suffering? I have endured a spiritual practice for many years and have serious doubts. I fear that in the west we tend to “systemize” our practice via meditation, prayer, or ritual. A practice that is repetitive seems to cut us off from spiritual growth at some point. How can we practice with an openness to change and growth? It appears that the methods are more domineering than the original inspiration that created the methods. Religious wars and bickering is worse than ever today. Are we battling to maintain a system in spiritual practice or listening to our feelings to know when to let go of a practice? Our ego may be fighting to maintain a spiritual regimen.

  17. ReddyK - The Atma Jyoti Blog Says:

    Cali,

    A wise person once said, “The desire for God is the way to God.” If this is present, any method can work, though not all methods are equal. If it is absent, methods alone won’t do it. Fostering of desire for God, and the elimination of that which quenches that laudable desire, is the way to success, whatever the technique employed.

    What are your thoughts, Andrea?

  18. Andrea Hess Says:

    Cali - Like you, I don’t believe that spiritual practice is something that we have to “endure.” Sure, spiritual practice requires effort and discipline, but suffering? I don’t think so. I think you’re right in that our spiritual practice needs to evolve as we do. On the other hand, we can also easily fall prey to jumping from one practice to the next because we’re not truly dealing with the resistance that may arise. But that’s exactly why I’m such a proponent of intuitive development. It’s a way to receive accurate information from our Higher Self about what is truly needed on our spiritual path, rather than just blindly following a teacher or practice without discernment.

    ReddyK - I agree completely! Spiritual practice isn’t a mechanical process - I think a passion or love for experiencing the Divine has to be part of the mix. I wonder though … in desire for God, isn’t there also attachment to achieving that experience? Can we become too attached to enlightenment and actually push that experience further away through desire?

    I think maybe we have to practice meditation for the love of spiritual practice, without attachment to any specific outcome? I’d love to know what you think about desire and attachment when it comes to spiritual practice!

    Blessings,
    Andrea

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